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Topic History of: Analysing Resins by Static Headspace GC
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admin Ian is correct on all counts. When I saw HS,
I assumed you were only interested in the
resin's volatile components. That was my
interest in the hot melt glue resin. If the
volatile components were not the same batch
to batch, the glue would not harden quickly
enough to bond the case flaps. I assumed you
were interested in the ink resin's volatile
components for drying effect. If that is the
case, a double run might be the best way to
go. The first, at low temperature, 100C, with
static head pressure. The second vial I would
put in a vaccuum oven at 60C before applying
the cap. I would then place it in the HS unit
at perhaps 200C and sample with the
assistance of nitrogen pressurization of the
vial. If you are interested in the resins
rather than the volatile components, HS/GC is
not the way to go. HPLC might be a another
choice to GC. Depending on the resin's
composition one of the many HPLC systems
should work, normal phase, reverse phase,
size exclusion, ion exclusion, etc. Somthing
is sure to work. I am positiive that what you
need is already in use somewhere. Hopefully,
you will not have to re-invent the wheel to
complete your project.
admin Inês,
If you are wanting to characterise the
resins, could I suggest that Pyrolysis GC is
probably a better method since I guess the
resins in the inks are not volatile and
therefore would not be in the headspace. PyGC
is a good fingerprinting tool and is
relatively cheap. When coupled to a MS the
cost increases but the information you
acheive is much better.
Alternatively, FTIR would provide information
on the type of resin present and in many
cases can be quantified.
admin The solvents should come off at the boiling
point of water and could be handled under
static pressure with syringe injections or
via transfer line.

To get higher melting point components into a
volatile state requires higher temperatures.
Many years ago I developed a method for
comparing volatiles in hot melt glue resins.
We had a problem between 2 batches of
supposedly the same material. Samples of
different cartons from one batch all produced
similar chromatograms when examined by HS/GC.
Samples from the other batch produced
different chromatograms from the first batch
but were similar to each other. The supplier
took back the poorly performing batch,
credited our company and paid for our lost
production after they saw the chromatograms.
I used nitrogen to pressurize the vial rather
than static head pressure. This gives a
better transfer of material to the sample
loop and helps prevent oxidation. I held the
sample loop and tranfer line at the maximium,
200C. I heated the vials to a temperature 20C
below the maximum of the transfer line, 180C.
This prevented depositing in the sample loop
or transfer line. The injector was 30C above
the temperature of the transfer line, 230C,
to make sure all material was deposited on
the column. The column starting temperature
was 25C above room temperature, 50C. This
focused all analytes on the head of the
column. It really worked well for my samples.
Check the MSDS of the inks and resins to make
sure you do not use temperatures that might
break down components. An FID will give a
nice finger print chromatogram. An MS
detector would allow identification of the
peaks by providing finger prints of the
components comprising the peaks. An MS
library might even name the analytes in the
peaks. Good luck with your work.
admin I can use both manual injection or automated
through a heated transfer line. The HS and
the GC are both Perkin Elmer. The column is
5%diphenil-PDMS and the detector is a FID. I
also have a 100% PDMS column.
I'm working at a printing ink company. We
produce inks wich have resins. I already have
a method for determining the nature and the
amount of solvents present in the ink's
composition. I'm now trying to identify and
quantitate more of the ink's components, like
resins. I'd like to have a data base of each
resin's \"finger print\" in order to identify
wich resins are present in each ink I analyse
and in what amount.
It'd be very helpful if you could remember
some of the parameters required.
admin I developed a method for evaluating
differences in volatile components in hot
melt glue resins by HS/GC many years ago. I
was using a Genesis HS and a Varian GC with
an FID. I do not remember the column. I
developed the method a long time ago for the
company where I was employed at that time.
What type of HS instrument are you using? Is
injection automated from the vial through a
heated transfer line into the GC injector or
is it transfered with an external syringe
that has to travel through the air between
the vial and the injector? This information
will determine the parameters required for
both HS and GC injection parameters.
admin Is it possible to analyse resins by static
headspace gas chromatography? If the answer
is yes, at what temperature should the vials
be heated before analysis?

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